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Why Is This Happening? The Chris Hayes Podcast

An exclusive #WITHpod conversation with Rachel Maddow

Why Is This Happening? The Chris Hayes Podcast

NBCNews

News, Nbcnews, Why Is This Happening?, The Chris Hayes Podcast, Chris Hayes, Politics, Government, Society & Culture, Msnbc, Withpod

4.68.9K Ratings

🗓️ 11 October 2022

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

What more can we say? Rachel Maddow is incredible. Luckily for us, her decision to dial back from the nightly cable news grind has allowed her to create a work in new media. One of her new projects is “Rachel Maddow Presents: Ultra,” a podcast all about the history of pre-World-War-two American fascism, and those who worked to stop it. The historical, narrative style pod could hardly be more relevant, as the plot revolves around a sedition trial quite similar to the ongoing Oath Keepers one. As threats to American democracy abound, there’s more that has to be done to save it, said Maddow in our exclusive podcast interview. “I think there needs to be a bigger, broader, anti-fascist movement where people actually have work to do every day in trying to fight fascism and save the country,” she urged. Maddow joins WITHpod to discuss what she’s been up to, how she found the story that’s told in her new podcast, the editorial and creative process that has followed and more.

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0:00.0

I think there needs to be a bigger, broader,

0:02.4

anti-fascist movement where people actually have worked to do every day

0:05.7

and trying to fight fascism and save the country.

0:09.0

I think that our professional and civic and religious institutions

0:14.7

can be strong, but can also be hurt.

0:18.4

I think we're capable of it.

0:19.8

I just think we need some energy in it,

0:21.4

and I'm hoping in some ways that learning the history of other Americans who've done it well

0:26.2

can give us some energy.

0:31.2

Hello, welcome to Wise is Happening with me, your host Chris Hayes.

0:40.2

Here in the television medium for a very, very special, exciting episode.

0:45.2

I'm going to start with a sports metaphor if you don't want to indulge me.

0:48.2

So in 1913, I'm not pulling this from memory.

0:51.2

See, if I was not television, I could be like,

0:54.2

in 1913, the American League Home Run Leader was a guy named Home Run Baker.

1:00.2

They named him Home Run Baker because of how many home runs he hit and he hit 11.

1:04.2

And then in 1913, he hit 12 and then in 1914, he hit 9.

1:08.2

And then a guy named Babe Ruth comes along.

1:10.2

Now this is basically the standard for American League Home Run leaders

1:13.2

for like the entirety of the first 20 years of the 20th century.

1:17.2

You get 11, you get 10.

1:19.2

This guy, Babe Ruth comes along, starts out as a pitcher, goes over to hitting.

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