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Why Is This Happening? The Chris Hayes Podcast

Lady Justice in the Age of Trump and Dobbs with Dahlia Lithwick

Why Is This Happening? The Chris Hayes Podcast

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4.68.9K Ratings

🗓️ 18 October 2022

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

Throughout history, the judicial system has employed many more men than women. “Lady Justice: Women, the Law, and the Battle to Save America” tells the story of heroic women in law who, in the face of Trumpism and MAGA movements, have stepped up to fight injustice. Part biography and part analysis, the book, written by author, journalist and podcast host Dahlia Lithwick, profiles a variety of women lawyers, judges, and activists who have stood up against racism, sexism, and xenophobia. She joins WITHpod to discuss the impetus for writing the book, the urgency of this moment and why the future of our democracy greatly depends on a more inclusive legal system.

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0:00.0

I think we tell a lot of stories about women in power, right?

0:04.0

We like stories about the women's march.

0:06.0

We like stories about all the women who were getting arrested, when Brett Kavanaugh was

0:11.4

having his hearings.

0:12.4

You know, we talk about women in power.

0:14.5

In some ways, the way we're talking about women in Iran and power, right?

0:18.2

Which is, you take to the streets, you put your body on the street, you know, you impair

0:22.1

all your life.

0:23.3

And that's an amazing story.

0:24.5

But I think that we forget that like, there's this whole toolbox in this country, which

0:28.7

is that women are in the judiciary and women are governors and women are secretaries of

0:32.8

state and women are election officials.

0:35.2

And so there is this beyond just talking kind of fancifully and reverently about women's

0:40.9

voices.

0:41.9

Like women have genuine power.

0:44.6

Hello, and welcome to Wise This Happening With Me, Your Host, Chris Hayes.

0:56.6

I know there's a photo that I saw last week, I think it was, with a really striking photo.

1:02.1

And it was, I think, from the first day of the Supreme Court's term, Fall term of 2022,

1:08.9

2023, that's the day.

1:10.6

Basically, I've said this before on the show, but if you're in cable news and you're trying

1:14.7

to cover the court, you're screwed because there's nothing to show.

1:17.3

We literally, we have one image.

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