An Election in Germany
The Lawfare Podcast
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🗓️ 28 September 2021
⏱️ 40 minutes
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Summary
Over the weekend, Germany held elections to see who will succeed Angela Merkel as Germany's chancellor. The results are in, but there's still a lot of coalition building to go. To break it all down, Jacob Schulz sat down with Constanze Stelzenmüller, the Fritz Stern Chair on Germany and trans-Atlantic Relations and a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution, and Yascha Mounk, an associate professor at the Johns Hopkins School of Advanced and International Studies, both of whom are experts in German politics. They talked about the election, how to make sense of the results, and what everything means for the bigger picture of European politics, Germany's role in the world and more.
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| 0:25.6 | no bull and the aftermath. |
| 0:33.9 | The AFD has, you know, done worse than it wanted to. |
| 0:38.6 | It's done worse than last time. |
| 0:41.2 | And because it has radicalized so visibly, allowing itself with neo-Nazi and identitarian |
| 0:47.6 | groupings, it has become just beyond the pale for any democratic party to collaborate with. |
| 0:54.8 | To me as a German, I have to say, you know, the fact that 10.6% of German voters are still |
| 1:01.8 | under those circumstances, willing to vote for the AFD is hair raising. |
| 1:07.0 | And what I'm even more concerned by is the fact that it gets far a far greater vote |
| 1:12.8 | chair in eastern Germany. |
| 1:14.9 | And it fact it rolled in in first place at around 21% in two of the five Eastern German |
| 1:21.0 | states. |
| 1:22.4 | And that, to me, is truly terrifying because that means that the established democratic |
| 1:26.2 | parties, you know, just don't have an answer to the problems that make people vote for |
| 1:31.7 | the AFD. |
| 1:32.7 | That's really quite distressing. |
| 1:35.2 | I'm Jacob Schultz and this is the LawFair podcast September 28th, 2021. |
| 1:42.2 | Over the weekend, Germany had elections to see who will succeed on the local Merkel |
| 1:45.8 | as Germany's chancellor. |
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