We're like a fighter who's been fighting too long, and they just want to be in a fight.

Just like you punch drunk and you're just throwing punches just to throw them because people are anxious.

Okay, let's kind of get our footing here.

We've lost a really big election to a guy we shouldn't have lost to twice.

Maybe it's us, maybe some self-reflections in order here.

That's former Ohio Congressman Tim Ryan.

He was known to be quite the fighter when he was in the House.

And more recently,

he ran a tough Senate race against none other than J.D. Vance. And he talks about economic issues

and how they impact working people in a way that frankly eludes most Democrats. And he's also

been pretty critical of the way leaders in his own party are meeting this moment.

Welcome to The Blueprint with Jen Saki.

Tim Ryan was born and raised in Ohio and represented Ohioans in Congress for 20 years.

He understands the state the way you can when you spend your life in a place and talks about

the economy in a plain and accessible way.

I wanted to get his take on how other members of his party could do it better. So we sat down to chat

last week. Tim Ryan, it's great to see you. Hello, Jen. So I consider myself kind of an honorary Ohioan. I mean, I cheer for the Bengals.

We love Joe Burrow in our house. I have a Johnny Bench bat framed in my house. I love graders.

I'm just going to keep giving. I mean, I've been married to an Ohioan for 15 years, but you are

born, bread. It's in your soul, it's pumping through your veins.

So I'm so excited to talk to you.

I really want to talk about the path forward, a little bit about what just happened.

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