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Lisa Harper's Back Porch Theology

An Antidote to Self-Centeredness Disguised as Spirituality with Dr. Trevin Wax

Lisa Harper's Back Porch Theology

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Talk Radio, Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.82.4K Ratings

🗓️ 29 June 2025

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

During today’s conversation on Back Porch Theology Alli and I are diving into the swampy waters of ideology with Dr. Trevin Wax. Trevin will help us understand and learn how to better practice what some have called counter-catechesis – that is sorting out our Christian belief system in a thoughtful way that effectively says, “You’ve heard it communicated like this on a popular podcast or Instagram reel, but now let’s look at what the Bible actually says about that issue.” Grab a caffeinated beverage and a hearty snack, plus your Bible and a notebook if you’ve got one handy, and then come pull up a chair on the porch with us. We’re really glad you’re here!

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During today's conversation on Back Porch Theology, Allie and I are diving into the swampy waters of ideology that sounds spiritual, but is in fact more syncretistic than Christological, and often filled with heretical

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crocodiles like individualistic notions of identity, reductionist views of freedom, and all

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sorts of other preferences camouflaged as biblical truisms. Mind you, we're not about to go on this

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epic heresy hunting adventure all by ourselves,

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so we've enlisted the theological version of Crocodile Dundee, Dr. Trevin Wax, who's a seasoned

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hunter of all things heretical. Trevin will help us understand and learn how to better practice

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what some have called counter-catechesis. That is sorting out our Christian

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belief system in a thoughtful way that effectively says, you've heard it communicated like this

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on a popular podcast or Instagram reel. But now let's look at what the Bible actually says about that issue. Dr. Tim Keller modeled this

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wise and authentic way of engaging in relationship-building dialogue versus off-putting and divisive

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diatribe, of navigating the post-Christian culturally bound belief system that many of our friends,

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neighbors, and coworkers subscribe to with respect and kindness while not compromising the clear

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biblical standards we're called to as Christ's followers. Today is going to be heart and mind expanding,

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so you might want to grab a caffeinated beverage and a hearty snack, plus your Bible

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and a notebook if you've got one handy, and then come pull up a chair on the porch with us.

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We're really glad you're here.

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Hey, hey, back porches. My name's Allison Allen. I'm the 5'12 spiritual wing woman to Lisa Harper for Backport theology and Lisa. I am so excited. I wish that the microphones had been rolling just among the last 30 minutes. We have been schooled. We have had church. I'll tell you, my favorite theologians are theologians with brilliant brains and even softer hearts.

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And that's who you are, Dr. Trevin Wax.

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I've known Trevin for a very, very long time.

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He used to be one of my bosses when I had the privilege of publishing Bible studies at Lifeway.

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And I never left a conversation with Trevin

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