Hi and welcome to the working songwriter, the show where today's best songwriters come to Talk Shop.

I'm your host, Joe Pug.

Each episode here, we host a distinguished guest,

and we ask them to go deep on their inspiration, on their process,

on the general ups and downs of making a life in music.

So, whether you're a grizzled veteran,

trying to figure out where to warehouse 20,000 jewel-cased CDs that you bought but never sold in 2005, or else a scrappy upstart,

upgrading to SoundCloud Pro to get more upload space for your three-hour noise album. This is your show, because ultimately, it is what every writer seeks most, an ironclad

excuse to put off actually writing.

Hey, everybody, it's the second Friday of July 2021, and I thank you for joining us.

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