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We're back with another edition of the Federalist Radio Hour. I'm Emily Doshinsky

Culture Editor here at the Federalist. As always, you can email the show at radioatthefederalist.com,

follow us on Twitter at FDRLST. Make sure to subscribe wherever you download your podcasts as well.

Today we're joined by George BB. He's the director of Grand Strategy at the Quincy Institute for

Responsible Statecraft. George spent more than two decades in government as an intelligence

analyst, diplomat and policy advisor, including his director of the CIA's Russia Analysis,

and as a staff advisor and Russia matters to Vice President Cheney, his book, The Russia Chap,

Trap, How Our Shadow War With Russia Could Spiral Into Nuclear Catastrophe,

which was released in 2019, warned how the United States and Russia could stumble into a

dangerous military confrontation, much like the situation we face over Ukraine today.

That book seems to have been very prescient, and I know we will get into all of that,

but if you could start just by walking us through your career, you've worked in some pretty incredible

places. That would be fantastic. Well, thanks Emily, and thanks for having me on the show.

Well, you know, my career was largely accidental. I stumbled into it, not according to any plan.

I lived in the Marshall Islands when I was a teenager. My father worked for

a resource laboratory that was involved in building and operating radar installations on

Quajolin Atoll, which is where the United States tests its intercontinental ballistic missiles.

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