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Amicus: Zero-Sum Justice

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Politics, News, News Commentary

4.56K Ratings

🗓️ 15 July 2023

⏱️ 73 minutes

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Summary

In the first of Amicus’ summer series of conversations about books and podcasts that have helped us look at the Supreme Court from a different angle, Dahlia Lithwick is joined by Joel Anderson, host of Season 8 of Slate’s Slow Burn podcast: Becoming Justice Thomas. They talk about the experiences and people who helped shape Justice Thomas’ worldview and how deeply his jurisprudence is rooted in a kind of “cruel to be kind” ethos from his childhood. And why he was so blind to the challenges and suffering of so many Black women in his life.  Next, Dahlia talks to Heather McGhee, Author The Sum of Us: WHAT RACISM COSTS EVERYONE AND HOW WE CAN PROSPER TOGETHER, about her books and podcast, and what they can teach us about a Supreme Court that is inclined to frame the world as zero-sum. Sign up for Slate Plus now to support our show. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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And he just thinks that I was actually special, you all got in because of preferences.

0:06.8

And there are a lot of people like that.

0:08.2

Clarence Thomas is certainly not alone.

0:10.6

It's all very well and good for justices to be anti-government when they are, the government,

0:16.7

when they're paid by the government, when they're pensions or the government.

0:19.6

When they have more power than most of the planet.

0:24.2

And so I always take it with a grain of salt.

0:27.2

Hi and welcome back to Amicus.

0:33.7

This is Slate's podcast about the courts and the law.

0:36.8

I'm Dialithwick and I cover those things for Slate.

0:40.7

I wanted to take a second to thank our Slate Plus members who carried us through opinion

0:46.5

polusa and delivered us to the relatively tranquil shores of summer on Amicus.

0:53.5

We'll be back in the fall with more exclusive extra content like my chats with Mark Joseph

0:59.0

Stern, but he is having a well-deserved break for right now.

1:04.7

You can still sign up for Slate Plus to get ad-free versions of Amicus.

1:09.4

Never hit a paywall at Slate.com and most of all to support the work that we do here on

1:15.0

Amicus.

1:16.0

So go to Slate.com slash Amicus Plus for more details.

1:20.3

And thank you so so much for supporting the work we do here at the magazine.

1:24.8

And so with that, welcome to our summer series where we take a little step back and meet

1:29.8

people whose books and ideas help shape our thinking about justice in the courts.

1:35.6

And this inaugural show of the summer series is a packed offering of just that.

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