Hi, and this is Amicus, Slate's podcast about the Supreme Court and the law, and I am Dahlia Lithwick.

I host this podcast, and I cover some of those things for Slate.

And I wanted to let you know about a bonus segment we're releasing to our Slate Plus members as we process a really blockbuster opinion from the Supreme Court in a religious liberty case that honestly any other June in any other year would have been reverberating for weeks.

But this is not any other June,

and we have a whole bunch of blockbuster cases that are coming up.

So we wanted to jump on this one

and get you a little bit of clarity and context

about today's decision in Carson v. Macon.

Here is a brief snippet of my conversation with Slate's own Mark Joseph Stern.

This is another one of those Sonia Sotomayor dissents, Mark,

where she pretty explicitly doesn't just dissent from the opinion that Chief Justice Roberts writes,

but she issues another warning, both about how fast

the court is changing the legal landscape and also she sort of warns about what's to come.

Yeah, and this goes back to what I was saying earlier about the parade of horribles that Breyer

mentions, which I think is spot on and really kind of leads the reader to question

Roberts candor in his majority opinion. Like, you can't just pretend that this is the end of the

road for this campaign when there have been so many previous decisions where the majority

has pretended like they've pushed things as far as they're going to go and then just push further and further. And Sotomayor is saying quite correctly that the court has

essentially repealed the establishment clause. The court has used the free exercise clause to overturn

the separation of church and state that is embedded in the First Amendment to the Constitution.

And the question

then becomes what happens next. And I think we'll get one answer soon when the court hands down

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