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Amicus With Dahlia Lithwick | Law, justice, and the courts - Amicus: The Storm Arrives

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🗓️ 27 June 2015

⏱️ 29 minutes

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With the ink barely dry on two momentous Supreme Court decisions affecting marriage equality and health care, Dahlia discusses the history, high points, and likely impact of those decisions with Walter Dellinger, professor of law at Duke University, a Slate contributor, and the former head of the Office of Legal Counsel from 1993 to 1996.   First, Dahlia and Walter reflect on Friday's 5-4 decision in Obergefell v. Hodges, which ruled that same-sex marriage bans are unconstitutional. Next, they talk about Thursday's 6-3 decision in King v. Burwell, which supported the Affordable Care Act's subsidies for poor and middle class people.  Please let us know what you think of our podcast – and your ideas for our shows during the summer recess. Our email is amicus@slate.com. Amicus is sponsored by The Great Courses, offering engaging audio video lectures like “The Great Debate: Advocates and Opponents of the American Constitution." Get up to get up to 80 percent off the original price when you visit thegreatcourses.com/amicus.  Transcripts of Amicus are available to Slate Plus members. Consider signing up today at slate.com/podcastplus! Members get bonus segments, exclusive member-only podcasts, and more. Sign up for a free trial today here. (Note: After a new episode is posted, its transcript may take several days to appear on our show page.) Podcast production by Joel Meyer.


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0:00.0

Amicus is sponsored by The Great Courses, offering engaging audio and video lectures taught by top professors.

0:07.2

Courses like The Great Debate, Advocates and Opponents of the American Constitution.

0:12.3

Right now, get up to 80% off the original price when you visit the greatcourses.com slash amicus.

0:27.4

Hi, and welcome to amicus, Slate Supreme Court podcast.

0:32.2

I'm Dahlia Lithwick, Slate's pretty darn tired Supreme Court correspondent.

0:36.4

I started last week's episode by saying, oh, it was so crazy.

0:39.4

I didn't know what crazy was until this week.

0:45.8

This week has been completely bonkers with the court handing down two much, much anticipated rulings and surprising everybody by doing it a week before we thought they would.

0:51.2

On Thursday, the court handed down King v. Burwell, a six-three decision,

0:56.0

finding that President Obama's Affordable Care Act allowed the federal government to subsidize

1:01.4

health care for poor and middle-class Americans, even if they were on states that had not

1:06.1

created their own state exchanges. And then, in a five-to-four ruling on Friday in Obergefell v. Hodges,

1:12.9

the court ruled that same-sex marriage bans are unconstitutional in states that have them

1:17.7

and that every American has a right to enter into a same-sex marriage. With the ink barely dry on

1:23.7

these opinions, I've asked Walter Dellinger to join me here in Slate's Washington, D.C.

1:28.2

studio to help sort all of this out. Walter is a professor of law at Duke University. He's

1:34.2

former head of the Office of Legal Counsel and former Solicitor General in the Clinton administration.

1:40.0

He's also a dear, dear friend of Slate. He and I have been talking about the Supreme Court term at the last week of the term for 14 years.

1:49.0

Welcome back to Amicus, Walter Dillinger.

1:52.0

Well, Delilah, thank you.

1:53.1

You have me here on two of the more dramatic days we've seen at the court in a long time.

1:58.5

And nobody thought marriage was going to come down today.

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