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Amicus: The Verdict, the Video, and the Unreasonable Burden of Proof

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News, Politics, News Commentary

4.5 • 6K Ratings

🗓️ 27 April 2021

⏱️ 64 minutes

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Summary

Hey Trumpcast listeners! Your host Virginia has some big news. Her next podcast—After Trump—is a guidebook alongside legal scholars Jack Goldsmith and Bob Bauer—both former Trumpcast guests—to reforming our laws, norms, and ethical codes so we never get in that fix again. To learn more, go to AfterTrumpPod.com. But first, there's another show we hope you'll check out: Amicus, Slate's podcast about the courts and the law. In the wake of the conviction of former police officer Derek Chauvin in the murder of George Floyd, journalism professor Allissa Richardson joins Dahlia Lithwick to discuss what it is to bear witness while Black in America, and why the media needs to stop airing the videos. (This is the interview with Vanita Gupta that Dahlia mentions. In our Slate Plus segment, Mark Joseph Stern and Dahlia probe the duplicity at the high court in this week's shocking juvenile life without parole decision, why justices insisting they're best friends really isn't the answer to calls for court reform, and a look ahead to the biggest case so far this term that you probably haven't heard much about. Sign up for Slate Plus now to listen and support our show. Podcast production by Sara Burningham. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hi, this is Dahlia Lithwick. I write about the courts and the law, the Supreme Court, the rule of law for slate, and I host the podcast Amicus.

0:09.6

I've appeared on Trumpcast more than a few times, so for those of you who remember me from there, hello again.

0:17.4

While Trumpcast itself said goodbye after 45 left the White House, the alarm bells, the last administration said off about the Constitution,

0:27.1

battered and annihilated norms, accountability, truth, and justice are still ringing.

0:33.9

And we hope to tackle these issues on my podcast, Amicus.

0:39.3

So I'm inviting you to find Amicus wherever you get your podcasts.

0:44.1

On Amicus, we are continuing this conversation about constitutional questions, the pressing issues that are playing out in the courts and in governments.

0:53.7

We're thinking about the ramifications of Trump's judicial appointments, the assault on voting rights, reproductive freedom, how to repair a beleaguered and besmirched justice department.

1:05.5

On the show, we talked to lawyers. We talked to very smart non-lawyers, and we hope to bring you conversations that are inclusive, accessible, and maybe provide some context you haven't really thought about before.

1:18.3

So I'm going to share with you this latest episode of Amicus. I hope you like it. I hope you'll join us in the future by finding us wherever you listen to podcasts.

1:28.7

That's Amicus, AMI, CUS. And thank you.

1:33.3

Let's talk about facts. Nothing could be more important to journalists, lawyers, and writers.

1:39.1

If your job involves facts, proving them, organizing them, and using them to tell a story, whether in the courtroom or in print, try casefully.

1:47.9

Caseflate's revolutionary chronology and document review software helps you organize cases and stories that can contain thousands of documents, hundreds of dates, and dozens of witnesses.

1:58.9

Sign up for a 14-day free trial at caseflate.com slash amicus, and get 10% off your first subscription.

2:07.9

Who are these videos for now at this point? Are they four people who really are interested in dismantling this form of policing that's killed so many people?

2:23.9

Or are they just people looking at this as entertainment? And at some point, we have to ask those tough questions.

2:31.9

Hi, and welcome back to Amicus. This is Slate's podcast about the courts and the law and the Supreme Court.

2:42.9

I'm Dahlia Lithwick. I cover the courts and the law for Slate. There is a lot of news this week coming out of one first street, including a decision Thursday reinstating juvenile life without parole.

2:55.9

Another refusal by the high court to take a big gun case and a reported $2 million book advance for the newest justice.

3:04.9

Justice's Sotomayor, Briar, and Gorsuch are all outstumping about how very, very well they get along. Coincidentally, they're doing that just as a bill to expand the size of the court was stomped to death by Nancy Pelosi.

3:19.9

Later on in our Slate Plus segment, we are going to talk to Slate's Mark Joseph Stern about the shocking decision out of the courts this week in a juvenile life without parole case.

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