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Hello and welcome to the Americano podcast, a series of discussions about American politics, life and culture.

My name is Freddie Gray. I'm the deputy editor of The Spectator.

I'm joined today by Kristen Huffington, who is editor-in-chief of Wikileaks and multi-time award winner of Icelandic journalist of the year. And we're going to be

asking why did the CIA want to kill Julian Assange, who is the founder of Wikileaks, the organisation for whom Christian works.

Now, Kristen, there was a rather sensational story that broke recently, which has not been refuted,

in fact, seems to have been confirmed that at the highest levels of the American government and the CIA,

there were discussions about killing Julian Assange involving possibly a shootout in London.

And this is the sort of thing that people around WikiLeaks suggested was true a few years ago,

and they were all considered mad for saying so.

But it seems now it was true.

You met the ask first, were you surprised when the story came out?

How did you react to the story?

I wasn't surprised about most aspect of this story

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