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Americano: Trump – the conventional foreign policy President?

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🗓️ 18 July 2025

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

Trump has said he's "very, very unhappy" with Russia, and threatened severe tariffs against them if there's no deal on Ukraine within 50 days. He's also sending more weapons to Ukraine in coordination with NATO. What's behind his change of heart on foreign policy, and how's his MAGA base responding? Freddy Gray is joined by deputy US editor Kate Andrews, and Sergey Radchenko, professor at the Johns Hopkins School of Advanced International Studies.


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0:00.0

Hello and welcome back to the Americano show, where we talk about power, politics and prejudices in American life.

0:16.1

Every week we will talk to at least one or two or possibly three or four American experts,

0:23.1

international experts about American affairs. And you can also catch us on Spectator TV on

0:29.0

YouTube as often as you like. Please keep listening and watching. Today we're going to be

0:37.0

talking about Donald Trump's increasingly tough rhetoric and positioning

0:41.8

against Russia over the war in Ukraine because yesterday Donald Trump made clear that he would

0:48.5

be giving a 50-day deadline to Russia to achieve peace in Ukraine. He also talked about the new weapons that America

0:59.1

will be providing for Ukraine and threatened sanctions, large sanctions, on trading partners of

1:06.8

Russia. It's quite a dramatic change from the Donald Trump of 23 and 2024 as far as Russia

1:15.5

and Ukraine is concerned. And to discuss it, I'm delighted to be joined by Sergey Radchenko,

1:20.8

who is in Dublin, but he is in fact a professor at John Hopkins in Washington, D.C.

1:27.1

And here in London, by the deputy editor of The Spectator in America, Kate Andrews.

1:33.1

Welcome, Kate.

1:34.0

Hi, Freddie.

1:35.1

So, again, I'll start with you.

1:36.7

I mean, obviously everybody's calling this a U-turn from Donald Trump,

1:40.7

given that he initially seemed to be very friendly, well-disposed towards Putin,

1:48.2

if Putin was willing to give him a peace deal. That has changed quite dramatically, hasn't it,

1:53.2

at the last few months? Well, it has to some extent. We've had a number of telephone conversations

1:59.1

between Trump and Putin. The last one

2:01.7

between them took place on July 3rd, which did not go well, according to Trump. Trump called it bad.

2:09.8

Mark Ruta talking about this telephone conversation said that Trump was irritated by Putin's

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