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Back in the spring, I was part of a traveling variety show called No Small Endeavor.

It's put on by a friend of mine, a theologian from Nashville named Lee Camp.

A bunch of us got in a big tour bus, left Nashville for Louisville, then Indianapolis,

then Grand Rapids. Lee and I told a story about the famous showdown between the suffragettes

and the anti-slavery movement in the mid-19th century, and then a bunch of musicians played music

to help us tell the story. It was one of the most fun things I've ever done in my life.

Anyway, when you're traveling on a tour bus,

you spend a lot of time talking to everyone else on the tour bus,

and along the way, I got to know the musical headliner on the show,

the singer-songwriter Drew Holcomb.

And I found him so thoughtful and fantastic and full of life

that I invited him to come to New York and sit down

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