This episode of Beg to

differ, The Bullworks Weekly Roundtable discussion featuring civil

conversation across the political spectrum. We range from center left to center right. I'm

Mona Charon, syndicated columnist and policy editor at the Bulwark. I'm joined

by our regulars Bill Galston of the Brookings Institution in the Wall Street Journal.

Damon Linker who writes the

sub-stack newsletter notes from the middle ground, and Linda Chavez of the Niskanin

Center. Our special guest this week is Pulitzer Prize winning columnist for the New York Times, Brett Stevens.

Thank you one and all. I'd like to begin with the war in Israel and Gaza.

We are in an unprecedented time, it seems to me,

where the kinds of responses to the atrocities that were committed by Hamas against Israel is a little bit bewildering

and deeply disturbing to many people on the left who had considered themselves to be allies with a lot of groups that were suddenly

celebrating or at least not condemning what happened and of course now we are several weeks in and

the calls for ceasefire are becoming louder and louder with even

President Biden who's been a very stalwart supporter of and

defender of Israel and all of this, but Biden is now saying there needs to be a pause.

So Brett, I'm going to start with you because interesting column, I understand you've been over there.

You had an interesting column about other possible ways for Israel to win this war in Gaza other than simply pounding from the air or doing

a massive ground invasion. Can you talk about that?

Well, Monnet's nice to be back in the United States.

I just returned the day before yesterday,

and thank you for having me on the show.

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