You can't subtract the fact that the most college, the most successful college football is played in the southeast, which is also the home, the ancestral home of, you know, the Blackville Nation, but also, I guess, the side of where chattel slavery happened.

You know what I'm saying?

Like, you can't really subtract that from the

equation. Now, it's uncomfortable to think about, but, you know what I mean? Like, this is where

the South is where slavery reigns supreme. And this is also where college football, a different

form of slavery, also reigns supreme. College football, you know, professional sports, this is, that's

essentially what opened the economy up. You know what I'm saying from COVID. You had, you had the

governor of Florida, Ron DeSantis saying, you know, teams in New York come down and play in Florida,

you know, and then you had, you know, Cuomo up in New York,

didn't want to have his, you know, any professional teams or a jersey, you know, not wanting their

teams to leave and lose that income. They started opening up the economy more in those areas.

You know, like sports has that dramatic of an impact, even on the economy and how these billionaires think

i'll never apologize for the united states of america ever i don't care what the facts are

why are we going to sit out and talk to these quote unquote moderate rebels who are the

truly moderate rebels the search for the moderate rebel do truly moderate rebels? The search for the moderate rebel. Do these moderate rebels exist?

Moderate rebels.

This is Moderate rebels.

I'm Ben Norton, and we have a full house today.

We're joined by some friends of ours at the podcast Red Spin Sports.

This is Nate Wallace, and we also have Mike Sampson in Florida. And of course, I have my co-host, Max Blumenthal.

And we're going to try something a bit different today. And I'm going to do this intro here,

but then I'm mostly going to stay quiet

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