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Hello and welcome to another episode of Deep State Radio. I am your host David Rothkoff coming to you from New York City on this the week before Christmas and we're getting close to the end of this year that all of us want to be done with I think rather quickly. We've got an interesting discussion in store today. We're

joined by special guest Ruth Ben Giet, who is the author of Strongman, Mussolini to the present.

She's also a professor of history and of Italian at NYU.

Hi Ruth, Hi.

Thanks for joining us.

And of course in Washington, D.C. we have Rosa Brooks.

Well, in Alexandria, Virginia, we have Rosa Brooks of Georgetown University Law Center.

Hi Rosa.

Hi, David.

And who knows at some point or another, we may have Corey Shockey.

Joining us, people's schedules are a bit in flux, but with the holiday and so forth.

Let me start out by asking Ruth a bit about your book. It's one of these exquisitely well-timed things.

And, you know, for those of us who write books periodically, you know, we can be frustrated with the promotional efforts of our publishers, but you seem to have Donald Trump doing all the heavy lifting in terms of promoting your book and its thesis.

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