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American Christianity in 2040: Risk, Reimagination, and a Return to the Mission - w/ Rick McKinley and Bonnie Lewis

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Voxology

Philosophy, Society & Culture, Religion & Spirituality

4.81.1K Ratings

🗓️ 4 June 2019

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

How the American church can face a rapidly changing culture by reclaiming its missionary identity, simplifying institutional models, and empowering the next generation of leaders. In this special edition kicking off a three-part mini-series for the 200th episode of the Voxology Podcast, Mike Erre and Tim Stafford revisit some of their favorite past guests to explore one timely question: What is the future of Christianity and the church in America?

This episode features thought-provoking conversations with pastor and author Rick McKinley and biblical scholar Bonnie Lewis, offering contrasting perspectives from Portland to the greater deconstructed margins.

Key Takeaways: • The Church as a Missionary Movement – Why American churches must stop existing for self-preservation and start embodying the mission of Jesus in a post-Christian culture. • Permission & Imagination – Gen X leaders must give way to innovative younger voices and support new forms of church that don't rely on traditional models of buildings, salaries, or Sunday-centric programs. • Reclaiming Deep Ecclesiology – The church isn't a preaching event or a building—it's a Spirit-filled alternative community of justice, simplicity, and love in a hostile world. • Preparing for Harvest and Hostility – Why the future belongs to churches that can thrive under cultural resistance and economic challenges, including the potential loss of tax-exempt status. • Thriving on the Margins – What Bonnie Lewis sees as the emerging future: diverse, justice-oriented, healing communities that move beyond white evangelicalism and toward a multi-voiced church.

Guest Highlights: • Rick McKinley – Pastor of Imago Dei Church in Portland and author of "Faith for This Moment." Rick brings decades of pastoral insight and urges a drastic shift toward empowering bivocational leadership and simplifying church to spark real kingdom impact. • Bonnie Lewis – Bible translator and author who champions honest, inclusive conversations on faith and spirituality. Bonnie celebrates hopeful dialogue in a polarizing era and envisions the future church as more representative, just, and relationally safe.

Resources Mentioned: • Faith for This Moment by Rick McKinley • Imago Dei Church – https://www.imagodeicommunity.com • The Vulgar Bible by Bonnie Lewis – https://www.bonnielewis.com/thevulgarbible • Episode 200 Series – Stay tuned for upcoming episodes featuring Kristen Howerton, Andy Lara, and Skye Jethani

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hey everybody, Mike Erie here.

0:11.2

Welcome to the Vox podcast.

0:12.8

I'm here with our friend, our editor,

0:17.1

the embodiment of Seattle.

0:19.0

If Seattle were a person,

0:20.3

I'm here with Tim Stafford, Tim, say hello.

0:23.4

Hello. Now I'm picturing us all as like those inside out characters and I'm the frumpy little

0:28.0

blue one. No, no, because Seattle is more than just the blue one. Seattle is all of them. They're just a

0:35.5

proportion. Seattle is probably my favorite city too. Is it?

0:38.3

It is?

0:39.3

Yeah. The air is all clean. I feel like everything feels cleaner in Seattle than it does. I mean, definitely down here in LA.

0:45.3

Yeah. Yeah. No question about that. And I can speak from having seen you a bunch that you are more of a flannel, beanie, kind of bearded guy,

0:57.0

exactly.

0:58.0

And you would-

0:59.0

I definitely have a beard of flannel and a beanie today.

1:02.0

And you would, so you wouldn't fit in on Maui, let's just say, like, you know...

1:06.0

I'd like to try.

1:08.0

Now, we are so excited because this is, by our official estimation, episode 198, we are approaching

1:20.5

200 episodes of the Vox podcast.

1:22.7

And I remember when Andy and I first started this, we would joke around at like episode

1:27.2

10.

1:28.6

And they said it would never last.

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