America vs. China: The new Cold War is coming

The Bunker

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🗓️ 20 June 2024

⏱️ 26 minutes

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Relations between Western nations and China are worsening. The US fears China’s growing global influence, but how far will it go to halt Xi Jinping’s ambitions? Sir Robin Niblett is a distinguished fellow at the international affairs think tank Chatham House and author of The New Cold War: How the Contest Between the US and China Will Shape Our Century. He joins Gavin Esler in The Bunker. Buy The New Cold War: How the Contest Between the US and China Will Shape Our Century through our affiliate bookshop and you’ll help fund The Bunker by earning us a small commission for every sale. Bookshop.org’s fees help support independent bookshops too. We are sponsored by Indeed. Go to Indeed.com/bunker for £100 sponsored credit. www.patreon.com/bunkercast Written and presented by Gavin Esler. Producer: Chris Jones. Audio production: Robin Leeburn. Managing Editor: Jacob Jarvis. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. Music by Kenny Dickinson. THE BUNKER is a Podmasters Production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:28.0	Search Phoenix Group living longer. Hello and welcome to the bunker. I'm Gavin Esler. What does Modern China want and how far should we in the West
0:46.2	help its autocratic leader Gijin ping meet his ambitions? More bluntly, do we need to wake up to the fact that we are already in a new cold war with Asia's growing, ruthless and ambitious superpower?
0:59.0	Sir Robin Niblet is a distinguished fellow at the International Affairs Think Tank Chatham House and at the Asia Society Policy Institute.
1:06.2	He's also author of a very clear and concerning new book, The New Cold War.
1:12.2	How the Contest Between the contest between the US and China will shape our century.
1:17.0	Welcome to the bunker, Sir Robin. Can we begin by looking at the various threats in turn and
1:21.6	begin where you began with spying because you begin
1:24.2	with that very odd story of some kind of massive Chinese spy balloon sighted over Montana
1:31.7	in the United States and then drifting across the United States and shot over South Carolina.
1:36.4	I mean, it sounds a bit crazy, but it should this sort of thing worry us.
1:41.1	Gavin, great to be on this podcast and thanks for the opportunity.
1:45.0	Well, the balloon issue was more of a metaphor I think for the nature of the relationship
1:52.4	between the United States and the bad relationship between the United States and the bad relationship
1:54.2	between the United States and China than it was about the threat of spying.
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