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This Is Not A Drill with Gavin Esler

America’s crisis is the world’s crisis

This Is Not A Drill with Gavin Esler

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News, Society & Culture, Politics

4.81.6K Ratings

🗓️ 17 July 2024

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

The US is currently suffering a crisis in democracy, and its effects are far-reaching. But how does it relate to the global rise in authoritarianism and conflict? In the wake of compounding concerns created by the recent Supreme Court immunity decision and increasing calls for Joe Biden to step down from the Presidential nomination due to his age, This Is Not A Drill assesses the stakes at play for global security. America is in turmoil after the assassination attempt against Donald Trump. But worrying developments – from a Supreme Court decision that conceivably puts the US President above the law, to the Democrats’ paralysis in the face of Biden’s declining powers – point to a deeper crisis. If America can’t function as a democracy, where does that leave the peace and stability of the world? Emma Beals speaks to former U.S. Director of Policy Planning Richard Haass and former Foreign Policy Advisor to Bernie Sanders Matt Duss to explore whether the greatest threat to American democracy is no longer Donald Trump, but comes from within the Democratic Party itself. Incogni keeps your private information safe, protects you from identity theft and keeps your data from being sold. There’s a special offer for This Is Not A Drill listeners – Go to Incogni.com/notadrill to get an exclusive 60% off your annual plan. Support us on Patreon to keep This Is Not A Drill producing thought-provoking podcasts like this. Written and presented by Emma Beals. Produced by Robin Leeburn. Assistant produced by Eliza Davis Beard. Original theme music by Paul Hartnoll – https://www.orbitalofficial.com. Executive Producer Martin Bojtos. Group Editor Andrew Harrison. This Is Not A Drill is a Podmasters production. www.podmasters.co.uk Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

It's been a terrible few weeks for US democracy and the US experiment itself.

0:09.6

The shocking assassination attempt on former President Trump graced his ear and resulted in the tragic death

0:14.7

of a campaign rally attendee and critical injuries

0:17.6

to several others.

0:19.1

The event is a game changer for an already tumultuous election. President Joe Biden's disastrous debate

0:25.3

performance and his fitness to run in November's election was previously the

0:28.8

major news headline. Alongside that the US Supreme Court, which now leaves heavily right, issued a series of judgments that undermine US democracy and rule of law and make November's vote far more about the future of the US and the world than ever.

0:44.0

The political impact of the attack on Donald Trump will become clearer in the days and weeks ahead,

0:49.0

but could improve his chances of victory.

0:51.0

Even before those violent events events we wanted to ask whether

0:54.7

Democrats were doing enough to backstop US democracy in the face of the

0:58.1

Supreme Court's efforts or to win in November and how much of a threat the

1:02.4

current moment in US politics is to

1:04.3

global security and norms. I'm Immobiles and this is not a drill. So, Until a couple of weeks ago the US election was fairly static. Polls weren't moving,

1:37.6

the candidates were unpopular but known entities, and a dangerous and worrying decline in US democracy and standing was continuing but

1:45.2

represented more of a whimper than a bang. Three weeks later the picture couldn't

1:49.9

be more different and the parallels to 1968 election seem more and more relevant.

1:55.0

The iconic image of Trump surrounded by secret service, bloodied and defiant, fist in the air, shouting

2:00.8

fight, fight, fight, represents a moment in time that will be pivotal in the campaign and US history.

2:07.0

All eyes will be on Trump and the Republicans messaging

2:10.0

at their convention to see whether they'll be incendiary or conciliatory in the wake of this act of political

2:15.4

violence, even though Trump's administration ended with the political violence of January 6th that was

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