Life shouldn't be hard. Life should be a fun-filled adventure every day.

So now start joining up dots.

Tap into your talents, your skills, your God-given gifts,

and tell your boss, you don't deserve me. I'm out of here.

It's time for you to smash that alarm clock.

And start getting the dream business and life you will, of course, are dreaming of.

Let's join your host, David Ralph, from the back of his garden in the UK,

or wherever he might be today, with another jammed pack episode

of the number one hit podcast, Join Up Dots.

Yes, hello there. Good morning to you. Good morning, world.

And thank you so much for being here on Join Up Dots.

It's a great day to be alive. It really is.

Well, today's guest is a Shark Tank Winger, and a CEO of Tower,

where Mark Cuban is an investor.

He's also the inventor of the five-hour workday, an initiative he started in 2015,

to challenge long-held delusions about unhealthy startup work culture.

Now, he moved his whole company to a five-hour workday,

and yes, we mean he's whole company, not just the directors,

and would later lie to book the five-hour workday about the experience.

Now, you might be thinking, wow, this is amazing. My company would never do this.

Well, there was a time when our guest might have been thinking that he wished he hadn't either.

As he ultimately found out, a shorter workday doesn't make businesses more profitable and productive,

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