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What Next | Daily News and Analysis

America’s $5 Trillion Grid Problem

What Next | Daily News and Analysis

Slate Podcasts

News, News Commentary, Daily News

4.32.4K Ratings

🗓️ 21 July 2023

⏱️ 25 minutes

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Summary

To keep places like Phoenix habitable, we need to have air-conditioning. But to have air-conditioning, we need a functional, modern electrical grid. With America’s grid already aging—and more demand coming in the form of electric cars and more A/C for hotter weather—what will it take to keep it going as the weather gets more extreme? 


Guest: Dr. Joshua Rhodes, research scientist at the University of Texas at Austin studying energy systems and how they interact with our environment, climate, and life.


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0:00.0

When you open up your weather app and see a forecast for 85, 90, even 99 degrees, you

0:11.8

brace yourself for a hot day outside.

0:16.8

But for some in Arizona, living through a record breaking heat wave without air conditioning,

0:21.8

that's the temperature inside their homes.

0:24.4

Next after lunchtime in temperatures reaching 85 degrees in Saipollet Hamilton's apartment

0:30.2

unit, she says it went out Thursday evening.

0:33.3

Five days is a long time to go without no air.

0:36.0

When it's over 100 degrees, we're getting the temperature of the wall.

0:40.1

It's around 98 to 99 degrees.

0:42.9

This is what Hope McNally has been living in for the past two months.

0:47.0

Now she is hoping that she gets some cool air.

0:49.7

It's miserable.

0:52.2

It is miserable in here.

0:55.2

Earlier this week, Phoenix hit 19 straight days of temperatures clocking in at 110 degrees

1:01.6

or more.

1:02.6

A new record with a little relief in Saipollet and it's not just Phoenix.

1:07.8

Austin, Texas had 10 straight days with a high temperature of 105 degrees, also unprecedented.

1:15.8

Most of millions of Americans are living in places with dangerous levels of heat.

1:20.6

Places where air conditioning can be the difference between life and death.

1:24.3

And that means we're all desperately relying on the electric grid.

1:29.0

I didn't worry about it that much until really the past few years, we've seen some really

1:34.4

major examples of the grid going down for multiple reasons.

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