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Hello, I'm Annabelle Crabb.

Now, I wouldn't say I'm a hoarder exactly, but I do hang on to things.

It's not just you and me.

Australia's oldest library is crammed with stuff that isn't books.

Terrible paintings, old menus, human hair.

Is this history or hoarding?

Come and have a rummage through the story of us told by our stuff.

Search for the History or Hording podcast on ABC Listen or wherever you get your podcasts.

You are at a bus stop.

A young girl is dropped off not long after you're there.

And minutes later, an older woman comes by and gives the girl a bar of chocolate.

And then they walk off holding hands.

Did you just witness a crime?

The unsettling answer is you might not be able to tell.

With kidnapping, I think, you know, we get the audience to think about it.

When they hear kidnapping, they probably think,

stranger comes up to child, child makes a fuss, kicks and screams,

kidnapper pulls them into their van, drives off.

But that mental representation we have might be very different to how kidnapping actually occurs.

And if you didn't recognize it as anything out of the usual at the time, how much of it will

you be able to remember days, months, even years later?

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