Hello and welcome to the working songwriter, the show where today's best songwriters come to Talk Shop.

I'm your host, Joe Pug.

Each episode here, we host a distinguished guest, and we ask them to go deep,

on their inspiration, on their process, on the general ups and downs of making a life in music.

So, whether you're a grizzled veteran, trying to convince your niece who just

moved to Nashville that she should cover a ballad that you wrote in the late 1980s, or

a scrappy upstart, paying $2,000 a month to share a house with that person's niece and four other

people in East Nashville. This is your show.

Because ultimately, it is what every writer seeks most.

An ironclad excuse to put off actually writing.

What's up, you guys?

It's the last Friday of April 2019.

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