Welcome to the Eder Upsell, part of the Box Media Podcast Network.

This is a man of Koot, the editor-in-chief of Eder.

I'm joined as always by Daniel Janine.

Hi Dan.

This week we have a special episode for you.

You were in Southern California.

Yep. And you interviewed our old friend Dave Chang along with Peter

Kofka who hosts Recode Media.

Yep, one of my favorite podcasts where he interviews all the Movers and Shakers in the media world.

Peter and I talked to Dave about how he grew his restaurant empire and how he thinks about

expansion. We talked about me too. We talked about why he's starting a media company.

He says that's really weird.

And all kinds of other things.

So we're gonna play it for you right now.

And you'll hear more from Dan next week. So check it out. If you like

it make sure to check out Peters podcast Recode Media and without further...

And Dave Chang's podcast, and Dave Chang's new podcast, The Dave Chang Show on the Ringer Podcast Network. Okay, so there's a lot. You're going to bring you over there.

Thank you.

Okay, so there's a lot...

You don't have to cook? No, no, I think I'm this.

The one event where you don't have to cook for anybody. But there's a lot to get into.

Media, tech, restaurants. Let's start with restaurants.

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