because we're told of so many problems and issues around the world,

we just get overwhelmed and if you tell someone,

okay, this is what's going on and this is what you can do,

that's a bit different. People are like, okay, that's a bit different.

People are like, okay, Elizabeth Novigrats. This is Species Unite. We have a favor to ask if you like today's

episode and you have a spare minute. Could you please rate and review Species Unite on Apple Podcast or wherever

you listen to podcasts?

It really helps people to find the show. Today's conversation is with Amanda Hurst.

Amanda is co-founder of well-beings, an organization that unites animal welfare and environmental protection throughout the globe,

from closing down puppy mills in the American South to stopping deforestation in South America.

She's also co-founder of the luxury sustainable fashion

retailer Mazandamode. They've recently launched a cruelty-free edit that

everyone should check out. Amanda, thank you so much for being here today.

Oh, thank you for having me Beth.

Of course. I would love to start, go back back and talk about your life growing up were there

animals in it and what was your relationship to them how did this path begin and

when yeah no it's funny because I was born and raised in Manhattan,

which is not known for animals or the environment. You know, it's very much a hard city,

but I grew up with a mother who loved. It was very much a hard city.

But I grew up with a mother who loved animals.

And so we always were adopting pets.

She'd take me to the country a lot.

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