Lori Marino: Intelligent Life on Earth
Species Unite
elizabeth novogratz
5.0 • 911 Ratings
🗓️ 19 November 2020
⏱️ 42 minutes
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Summary
"In a natural setting, these animals would be swimming maybe a hundred miles a day, diving deep. They have their social lives, their social networks, roles to play in very tightly-knit family groups. They raise their children. They have cultures, different ways of doing things in different populations. They can explore and play and come together.
None of that is available in the concrete tank. None of it. They don't have any place to go. They don't have any place to dive… what you see is a lot of mortality, a lot of sickness, a lot of behavioral abnormalities. Everything that makes life worth living for a dolphin or whale is absent in marine parks and concrete tanks. None of it is available." – Lori Marino
Lori Marino is a neuroscientist and an expert in animal behavior and intelligence. Much of her work is focused on whales and dolphins. She's currently the president of the Whale Sanctuary Project, which will be a seaside sanctuary for former performing orcas and belugas that have spent their entire lives in concrete tanks.
Lori is also the founder and Executive Director of the Kimmela Center for Animal Advocacy, an organization that bridges the gap between academic research and on the ground animal advocacy efforts.
She has appeared in several film and television programs, including the documentaries Blackfish, Unlocking the Cage, and Long Gone Wild, which is a 2019 documentary that picks up where Black Fish left off, and is also where the Whale Sanctuary Project begins.
The Whale Sanctuary Project is going to change the world for the lucky orcas and belugas that will end up there. They will also be a model for future sanctuaries for cetaceans – as we need a ton of them, there are way too many of these animals living in captivity.
It stuns me that even after documentaries like Blackfish, people all over the world (including many in the US) still visit marine mammal parks. Mostly, people go because they don't know. They don't know how miserable life is for the whales and dolphins and they don't know how intelligent and emotionally complex these animals are. Keeping them in tanks is cruel, inhumane, and unjust and it needs to stop.
Lori has made it her life's work to not only study their intelligence, but to advocate and fight for their lives. This conversation is an important one, after listening to Lori, I think it'd be very difficult for anyone to give another dollar to a marine park anywhere on Earth.
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| 0:00.0 | Everything that makes life worth living for a dolphin or whale is absent in marine parks and concrete tanks. |
| 0:08.0 | None of it is available. |
| 0:10.0 | They don't have any place to go. They don't have any place to dive. |
| 0:15.0 | None of that is available in the concrete tank. |
| 0:19.0 | None of it. They don't have a social network to live in. You can't have a culture in the concreteats. This is Species Unite. We have a favor to ask. If you like today's episode and you have a spare minute could you please |
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| 0:50.0 | podcasts it really helps people to find the show. |
| 0:55.0 | If you didn't get a chance to see Alice and Argo's award-winning documentary, The Last Pig, You Can Now. |
| 1:04.5 | It will be available to stream from November 27th until December 4th. |
| 1:09.3 | It's $5 and the money raised goes to four sanctuaries that are dedicated to helping pigs. |
| 1:16.2 | The film is incredible. |
| 1:18.0 | Elison was on the podcast last year to talk about the film, so if you heard her and then |
| 1:22.2 | you were unable to watch the film so if you heard her and then you were unable to watch the film now you can. |
| 1:25.2 | We will have links on our website species unite.com. |
| 1:28.9 | Today's conversation is with Lori Moreno. |
| 1:35.0 | Lori is a neuroscientist and an expert in animal behavior and intelligence. |
| 1:40.1 | Much of her work is focused on cetaceans, whales and dolphins. |
| 1:44.0 | She is currently the president of the Whale Sanctuary Project. |
| 1:47.5 | They're in the process of building the first seaside sanctuary for |
| 1:51.0 | Orca's and Beluga Wales in North America. This place is going to be |
| 1:55.2 | incredible. It will be a home for former performing Orkas and Belugas who have spent |
| 1:59.7 | their entire lives in concrete tanks. Loria is also founder and executive director of the Camilla Center for Animal Advocacy. |
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