AMA-5. Dr. Michael Shermer — “Are the Miracles of Jesus Unbelievable?” Debate Postmortem

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Michael Shermer

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🗓️ 21 April 2019

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

In this AMA special Dr. Shermer conducts a postmortem on his debate with the evangelical Christian theologian Luuk van de Weghe, with Windmill Ministries, before an audience of about 400 people, the vast majority of which were evangelicals. Dr. Shermer argues in the affirmative to the debate proposition that the miracles of Jesus are unbelievable. In this postmortem Dr. Shermer elaborates on his notes for the debate, suggesting ways to think about miracles from a scientific or naturalistic perspective.

The debate took place on March 30, 2019 in Sequim, Washington, and was moderated by Justin Brierley.

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0:00.0	This is your host, Michael Sherman, and you're listening to Science Salon, a series of conversations
0:10.4	with leading scientists, scholars, and thinkers about the most important issues of our time.
0:17.0	Michael Schurmer here for the Science Salon. This is a special edition of that.
0:24.8	Kind of an AMA except I'm just going to do a post-mortem on my debate I did last week,
0:31.2	March 30th in the Seattle area.
0:34.8	Actually, a little town called Squam,
0:36.8	S-E-Q-U-I-M, Native American name,
0:41.0	I presume a couple hours north and west of Seattle.
0:44.8	So flew to Seattle and had a lovely drive up there and I debated Luke Vondoveg from Windmill Ministries. So Luke is a of A
0:55.0	Vondoveg from Windmill Ministries. So Luke is a Theist, Christian Evangelical actually.
0:58.0	It was moderated by Justin Beerley, who has a Briarley, who is a Brit who has a Briarley who is a Brit who has a popular radio show that he hosts so he
1:08.6	was the moderator and this debate will be posted at some point I think in the next week or two
1:16.2	online to listen to and even watch I think they filmed it
1:20.7	anyway I thought I just do a post-mortem on this. We were each
1:24.0	given 20 minutes opening statements, 10-minute rebuttal, and then a moderated
1:28.2	discussion and Q&A with the audience and then five-minute closing
1:31.5	statement. So the question, the debate was,
1:33.8	are the miracles of Jesus unbelievable?
1:37.5	And of course my answer is yes, they are unbelievable.
1:40.5	And I don't mean in the adjectival sense of like wow that was an unbelievable
1:45.6	magic trick Penn and teller did no I mean they mean is it unbelievable as in you
1:51.6	can't believe them and the answer is yes of course from a
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