Hi, this is Natalie Hoffman of Flying Free Now, and you're listening to the Flying Free

podcast, a support resource for women of faith, looking for hope and healing from hidden

emotional and spiritual abuse.

Welcome to episode 85 of the Flying Free Podcast. Today I have with me Daphne and Becky and

we are going to be talking about what abuse is and what it isn't.

And I just have to say I get a lot of questions from women who wonder, you know, is this, like sometimes I act this way and is that abusive?

I was even talking to or listening to someone share their story and this last week and she actually went through a phase where she was hitting her

husband and he was obviously the abuser in the relationship but she was

exhibiting those kinds of behaviors in response to the abuse and I think a lot of us

maybe didn't go to that extent but I know I yelled a lot and I know I, on two different occasions, I threw pieces of a teapot collection that I had.

One was more towards the beginning of our marriage and one was more

towards the end and both times I ruined a tea cup not a teapot collection and a

tea cup collection I ruined those two teacups and then you know put a dent in the wall and

it was it didn't feel good it didn't feel good for me to be acting like that and it didn't it didn't really it wasn't

coming from you know the core my core values or anything like that and so anyway I think this is going to be a good discussion

welcome Daphne and Becky are you ready to dig into this one?

Absolutely. Okay so do you do either one of you guys have some initial thoughts?

Like when I sent you an email and said,

this is what we're gonna be talking about?

What were you guys thinking?

Go ahead, Daphne.

I'll wait till.

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