Hello from Washington, I'm Chuck Todd, and this is the Chuck Todd

so as I said in our last podcast I am going to take all of these early poles with a huge huge grain of salt

Most of the pollsters that have come out are the are the online pollsters or the those that do panel surveys of people online

are they're basically polls that really their track record has yet to be proven, but they're cheap to do and you can do them quickly.

I think they can generally get some trends right, but I think the specificity in their numbers is something I'm highly skeptical of

because of these panels it's such some of them are opt in

It's random sample but only within the panel and and there's just a lot of methodological issues that a lot of us have with

these polls and they can be highly volatile in the moment and so I pretty much ignore them and

if you've seen they they're kind of you can you can pick

choose your own adventure you can find a poll that shows aha or you can find one that

proves whatever point you want to make here as As I would said before, I would wait. Tell me what the

reaction to the verdict is on June 20th. That's when I'm going to know what's set in, what's

reality. That'll be about a week before the debate.

And then of course you'll have the debate itself that will potentially change a bunch of

things. I suspect, just like I said before, if history is any guy, you can go all

the way back to Grover, Cleveland and his sex scandal when he had to admit a child out of

wedlock, Bill Clinton's impeachment, or the access Hollywood tape. These things are never as

impactful as we think they are in the moment. A lot of it will depend on how much

each party decides to make it impactful and I will say this

I am surprised at the comfort that so many elected Republicans particularly ones in

swing states running for re-election how comfortable comfortable they are, hugging Trump on this.

And we're past most of the primary season.

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