Hello and welcome back to Iway with Jimmy Ligemill. I wasn't sure if this was still too

soon to come back but we are also in the middle of pride which is a celebration of all things

LGBTQ plus and there are so many important conversations to be had around that right now.

And so I felt I would bring you a conversation with one of my favourite voices on the whole

of the internet, someone who I've learned so much from. I am talking about Indian American

writer, performance artist, media personality, a loak Vade Menon who just goes by the name

of a loak online. They are such a great educator and they put things in a way that have just

explained so many nuanced and historical issues to me and so therefore I invited them

on to explain to me all things trans and gender non-conforming, all things non-binary and

how to use pronouns and how to be a better ally to those who are shunned by the rest of

the world, even sometimes within their own LGBTQ community. And so it's incredibly complicated

and it feels like a relatively modern subject even though these people have existed from the

beginning of time which a loak educates us on during this episode. I just think I couldn't

possibly have a better voice right now. I am just in love with them and I hope you will

be too and I have tried to ask all of the questions that I am most asked and you know I am

learning these things alongside other people and I have more to update myself on and so

that is really the point of this podcast is to be able to educate myself and just share

those lessons with all of you so we can all grow together. So please enjoy the wonderful

loak.

A loak, hello and welcome to Iway, how are you? I am thrilled to be here. It's such a

shame that not enough people can see you right now because you look a loody stunning, a

loak is giving me body con and there's pink and there's red and there's this bright orange.

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