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Welcome back to the Almost Famous OG Podcast.

I am your host, Bob Guinea here.

And tonight I am so excited.

We're doing a Bachelor in Paradise recap.

We got one of my favorite people on the show with me who's going to be talking through this, and she lived it, my friends. A golden in paradise. It's been amazing. Our dear friend Kathy Swartz, hi, Kathy. Hey, Bob. How are you tonight? I am so good. Man, I'll tell you what. I loved watching you in this episode, you and boy Gonzo and I really enjoyed watching you guys and it was interesting to me

and I'm so excited to get your take on this because I was watching you guys as

you know I I love you because you're my friends right but also I'm watching you

guys as kind of like the voice of reason at times and then honestly

sitting in silence, like almost in shock and awe of what you were viewing going on.

I mean, this was kind of a major turning point for Paradise.

It went from all fun and games and kind of happy go lucky puppy dogs and ice cream.

And then this episode, we started seeing some strategery.

We started seeing some people kind of burying themselves, which wasn't great for a few people.

A good old-fashioned politic and the parliament, paradise parliament, whatever it was.

But how was it for you?

I mean, you're living it obviously.

So you to watch it back, what was the difference between what you were feeling in that moment and what you're feeling watching it back today? Well, honestly, it feels very much the same. I was in the headlight watching all this politicking going on. And people would come in and say, who do you want to go home?

What do you think?

And I just kept thinking, we've got two strands here.

We have love and we have money.

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