Hi, I'm Zivie Owens, and you're listening to the award-winning podcast.

Moms don't have time to read books. Thanks so much for listening to my podcast. If you like what you hear,

please follow me on Instagram at Zibby Owens and also at Moms Don't Have Time to Read Books. Thanks so much for listening. Enjoy it.

I am so excited to be partnering with Rockets of Awesome, which is one of my favorite places to get

kids closed. They had a pop up in New York last year and we would go and jump in the ball pit and buy

clothes and it was great. And now they're offering listeners 20% off of

their Rockets of Awesome box, which comes four times a year with like a magical box of clothes.

It'll come in surprise and delight your kids because what's more fun than opening up a box

of clothes? Well, I mean, I guess maybe a box of toys. But anyway, Rockets of Awesome is amazing.

Go to Rockets of Awesome.com slash books.

And the discount code is Books, and it will be live August 1st.

And I hope you enjoy it.

And I'll be doing the box right along with you.

My conversation with Allison Winscotch became honestly just like a talk with a close girlfriend,

as many of my podcasts do.

But this one was particularly so.

So you might feel like you're just eavesdropping on a call between friends.

But we did talk a lot about the book, too, and all the rest.

But anyway, Allison is from Charlottesville, Virginia, and Seattle.

She went to Penn, the University of Pennsylvania,

with a BA in honors history and concentration in marketing from the Wharton School of Business.

She currently lives in L.A. and is an author.

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