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Moms don't have time to read books. Thanks so much for listening to my podcast. If you like what you hear,

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Erica Katz, is pseudonym.

So I don't really know what her name was, but that's the name on the book, and she was great.

Erica Katz, the book is The Boys Club.

She is a graduate of the University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, and Columbia Law School, and began

her career at a major Manhattan law firm. She's a native of New Jersey and now lives in New York City, where she is employed at another large law firm. Boys Club is her first novel, and it was already optioned by Netflix. Welcome, Erica. Thanks so much for coming on Moms Don't Have Time to Read Books. Thank you so much for having me. I'm so excited to talk to you.

I feel like this has been scheduled for so long. So some of my long lead time ones, I'm like,

oh, it's finally coming up. This is exciting. I mean, this is one of the first podcasts I'm doing,

and I sold my book over a year ago. So you think you've been doing this is the most bizarre waiting experience

of my entire life, especially because I thought it was going to look so different pre-COVID.

And now I've been waiting over a year. And here we are, no launch to no pending launch to speak

of. Oh my gosh. Well, it's still coming out though though, right? I mean. I had no lunch party, I mean. Oh, okay. I was like, I was like, I didn't get the memo on that. Okay. No readings, no nothing. So it's, you know, it's interesting. Oh, so, I mean, I just, my heart really goes out to everybody who this has happened to. It's just insane. Oh, this is like small potatoes compared to how some people are affected by COVID. It just looks different from how I thought it would, but, you know, it's all good. I'm super excited about it. So tell me, okay, take me back to when you decided to write this book. I know that you're a lawyer. There's a lot of stuff about a firm

that you made up, but you also work for a firm. This is a pseudonym, which is a whole other

conversation, which I'm totally impressed you can pull off in today's day and age. So take me,

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