From the historic campus of Hillsdale College in Hillsdale, Michigan, where the good, the true, and the beautiful are taught, nurtured, and honored, this is the Radio Free Hillsdale Hour, bringing the activity and education of the college to listeners across the country.

So when one looks at Abraham Lincoln, be prepared for someone who is complicated, someone who is complex.

He is not an easily predictable person.

He's not a perfect person.

He doesn't always get it right.

As I like to say to people,

Abraham Lincoln did not walk on the Potomac.

This is your host, Scott Bertram.

Welcome to the Radio Free Hillsdale Hour,

part of the Hillsdale College Podcast Network.

That's Dr. Alan Gelsho,

senior research scholar at the Council of the Humanities at

Princeton University, also the author of multiple books, including Gettysburg, The Last Invasion,

Abraham Lincoln Redeemer President, and Robert E. Lee Alife. The new book is Our Ancient Faith,

Lincoln, Democracy, and the American Experiment.

We talk in depth with Dr. Galzo about that book on today's program.

Dr. Galzo, thanks so much for joining us.

Awesome.

Great pleasure to talk with you again, Scott.

I am looking forward to a conversation about this new book on the great Abraham Lincoln.

Let me begin by asking a general question. We'll talk in more

detail, of course. But as we begin, tell our listeners why Abraham Lincoln had such confidence

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