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The Dr. Phil Podcast

All In: The NBA's Dirty Little Secret | The REAL Story with Dr. Phil

The Dr. Phil Podcast

Dr. Phil McGraw

Mental Health, Self-improvement, Society & Culture, Education, Health & Fitness

4.413.2K Ratings

🗓️ 7 November 2025

⏱️ 11 minutes

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Summary

FBI raids. Mafia poker rooms. NBA millionaires turned pawns.
The Real Story isn't about gambling it's about ego, exploitation, and how far men will go to feel untouchable again.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Unless you've been living under a rock, you've seen the headlines.

0:03.6

Chauncey Billups, Terry Rozier, arrest, escalates sprawling NBA betting scandal.

0:09.9

NBA head coach and player charged in sports betting and mafia-backed poker schemes.

0:16.5

Just two days into the NBA season, the league got blindsided, not by a buzzer beater, but by the FBI.

0:27.4

Federal prosecutors dropped two indictments that rattled the locker rooms all the way to Las Vegas.

0:33.7

This is an illegal gambling operation and sports rigging operation that span the course of years.

0:39.2

The FBI led a coordinated takedown across 11 states to arrest over 30 individuals today

0:44.8

responsible for this case, which is very much ongoing.

0:47.8

More than 30 people, including a head coach and a current player were charged in connection with league gambling

0:56.7

schemes with ties to four New York Mafia families. But the question is not what happened so much.

1:04.8

It's who does this and why. And by the way, when people ask me who does this kind of thing, it's not a rhetorical

1:15.8

question. They truly want to know what kind of person does this. What kind of person risk everything?

1:24.7

And in some of these situations, everything means multi-million dollar per year careers

1:31.4

for some crooked bets or rigged poker games. Let me give you the answer of several different ways.

1:39.6

There are generally two kinds of people you find involved in these scandals. Type one, the professional

1:45.6

criminals. And in type two, you've got the arrogant, the entitled, the greedy, and incredibly

1:52.0

naive. People who already have everything, but still believe, yeah, the rules just don't

1:59.0

apply to them. And for them, it's not about the money.

2:02.0

It's about ego, wanting to be cool, relevant, and the adrenaline rush that some people apparently

2:08.5

just cannot live without. Face it, some people would rather win $100 than earn $1,000,

2:16.1

because their currency is not always cash.

2:19.0

You must know it's something else because some of these people are earning a lot of money.

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