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Hello, welcome to the All-Out Politics podcast from Sky News. I'm Adam Bolton and joining me this week

are the former Transport Secretary and Chair of the National Infrastructure Commission, Lord Adonis,

Andrew Donis, the co-leader of the Green Party, Carla Denier, and Sky's chief political correspondent,

John Craig. This week we're going to talk about the government's

new proposals for the railways, particularly in the north, and we'll also going to have a look

at the ongoing sleaze rub.

But let's start with the government's new vision of all the railways,

particularly in the north of England,

which will actually mean the downgrading of what was promised repeatedly on HS2.

This is the Transport Secretary Grant Shaps.

This new blueprint delivers three high-speed lines.

First, that's crew to Manchester. Second, Birmingham to the East Midlands,

with HS2 trains continuing to central Nottingham and Central Derby, Chesterfield and Sheffield,

on an upgraded mainline. And third, a brand new high-speed line from Warrington to Manchester and to the western border of Yorkshire,

slashing journey times across the north. So Mr. Speaker, I've heard some people say that we're

just going about, and this is, I think, their point, electrifying the transpenine route.

This is wrong. What we're actually doing is investing 23 billion pounds

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