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Hey, welcome into the all-ball podcast.

You boy, Doug Gottlieb here.

My man, Steve Hawkins, is going to join us a long time.

For 20 years, he was a coach, 17 years the head coach at Western Michigan.

Was relieved of his duties in March, actually during or right before quarantine.

He's going to join us. Kind of reflect on his time getting to know the late great John Wooden and what his run was like at Western Michigan.

I want to give you a couple thoughts, though, on the last, last dance. First thing is this. Can we stop with these? Scotty Pippin was made to look bad? Scotty Pippin was actually, I think, made to look good. He was made to look like his contract was terrible. He was made to look like he was a warrior at the end when they won the title and he was playing with the bad back and that he was the one who had the class, class to say Jerry,

Jerry Krauss was the greatest general manager of all time.

So those parts made him look good.

Some of it, you know, his own words were, you know, did that.

But the only negative parts were real stories.

I'm sorry, he was the guy who was considered soft.

He did have the migraine against the Pistons in game seven.

He was the one who refused to go in the game in 94.

And look, when they asked him about it, he said, I wish it didn't happen, but I would do it again.

No one made him say that.

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