I'm just going to preface this by saying that this is a special episode, and I mean that.

And I hope that I don't get caught saying that too often, because this is one of those

ones that really stands out.

This is an episode between me and one of my new, dearest, closest friends on the planet,

M.C. McDonald.

MC happens to be an absolute brilliant PhD and philosophy and psychology and an expert on trauma,

who's done incredible research on trauma.

But this is more than me talking to an expert.

This is me talking to somebody who I love dearly and somebody who in my own personal life I spend

countless nights staying up talking about the big questions of life.

I've always wanted someone like MC to talk to, especially about philosophy and psychology.

In my mind, I always pictured it as a older, wise man mentor figure

coming into my life. So I was really caught off guard when that person happened to be a peer of my

age who was brilliant and beautiful and had no scraggly beard. We met in kind of a funny way. Her publisher,

Sounds True, hired us to do the audiobook recording for her new book Unbroken, which comes out in

March. We love Sounds True. We love working with them. So of course we said yes. Each day when

Reese and her would emerge from the recording studio, Reese would kind of pull me aside and he'd say,

hey, you should be friends with her.

She is spectacular and the book is amazing.

And that's what happened.

This has been an explosive friendship.

We are meeting once a week, regularly collaborating.

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