Hey Paul, how's it going?

Good day Sean, can you hear me?

Can you hear you perfectly? We're in the world, are you?

That's sick. I'm in the land down under in Australia, which is why it's pitched up

behind me. I've got up early to be with you.

Oh well, we really appreciate you doing that. Thank you very much.

And for the viewers who are not familiar with your work,

can you just say a little bit about yourself first Paul?

Sure. Well, people know me for my work in the field of paleo contact.

And paleo contact is the theory that in the deep past our ancestors had contact with other

civilizations, from elsewhere in the cosmos, with other species.

And how I got into this route is what surprises people. It's from a background in church

ministry, 33 years as a church doctor, theological educator, training pastors,

and an Archdeacon in the Anglican Church in Australia.

And it was through that work in a funny way that led me into this world of ancient

ET contact that I know right about.

So, if you're in that, on that conventional route then,

what were the triggers or the things that you uncovered that started to make you think differently?

And then were you conflicted with what you'd already been taught?

Yes. Well, it was really the mid role that I mentioned that got me down this rabbit hole.

And that was being a theological educator because the topics that I was training pastors in were

the history of Christian thought. And that's quite an interesting topic all itself because when you

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