What would you do if you got abducted by aliens?

What's your first move?

I mean, it's like with dreaming how you can have a layback experience or you can become

lucid and participate, right?

So for me, if I was abducted, I would want to, I would want to become lucid and participate right so for me if i was abducted i would want to i

would want to become lucid pretty quickly and try and participate in the experience because it's

happening anyway right so you may as well kind of like roll with it rather than you know in your work

have you studied or interviewed or interacted with many people who are abductees?

Many, many.

I've probably met with more than most people on this planet.

So maybe now, maybe around a few hundred that I've interviewed.

And is this for like documentary films that you've done?

Well, I just recently made a series.

It hasn't come out yet, but it's called The Abductees.

And yeah, and I sat down with a lot of people that have had abduction experiences or

what they like to call contact experiences.

You see, it's interesting.

If a person is taken and they feel like it was against their will and they had a

terrible experience and it was awful and whatever, they lean into saying, I was abducted.

If they were taken similarly, but they were proactive in that experience and they understood

what happened to them, they call it a contact experience. Do you see the difference? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So what's going on there? Is it a, are they physically gone? I've heard people say that they're physically gone, but I've heard people say it's more of a mental dream state. So what, what's your take on that? Both. I love this question because it's like sort of saying what are aliens look like?

You know, anyone that's down the rabbit hole will kind of agree that with extraterrestrials

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