Welcome to Nobody Told Me.

I'm Laura Owens and I'm Jan Black.

On this episode, we'll find out how to become more productive without adding more stress to our lives.

We'll explore the techniques that we can all

use to be the most growth-oriented and effective version of ourselves. And joining us is Alice Boyes,

a clinical psychologist turned writer whose latest book is called Stress-Free Productivity, a personalized

toolkit to become your most efficient and creative self.

Alice, thank you so much for joining us.

Hello, thank you for having me.

Yeah, so just to clarify, I used to be a clinical psychologist, but since 2013, I've been a

writer, so I made a, made a career transition.

And why did you do that?

It coincided with moving to America. So it kind of evolved. Like I started out blogging as a way of marketing my psychology practice in New Zealand back

in 2008. So sort of really at the beginning of blogging for those kinds of things.

And after I've been blogging on my own site for a while,

I started running for psychology today.

And then about a year into writing for psychology today,

I got approached by two literary agents in a week and got an opportunity to do a book.

And so it just kind of coincided with also making another life change where I made that switch over to writing. Why did you

decide to focus on productivity? So I started out writing about anxiety. So my first book

is about anxiety. And over time, I've sort of transitioned into anxiety. So my first book is about anxiety. And over time, I've sort of transitioned

into other topics. So I started writing for Harvard Business Review, so tackling a lot of

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