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Death, Sex & Money

Alia Shawkat & Esther Perel: Life In Our 30s, And 60s

Death, Sex & Money

Slate Podcasts

Business, Health & Fitness, Society & Culture, Careers, Relationships, Sexuality

4.67.6K Ratings

🗓️ 5 June 2019

⏱️ 26 minutes

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Summary

The last time Alia Shawkat was on the show, she was offering advice about being in your 20s. Now she's back, this time, getting advice about her 30s from therapist Esther Perel. This episode is part of our 2019 Maternity Leave Lineup of guest hosted shows while our regular host, Anna Sale, is out on leave. Are you new to Death, Sex & Money? Check out our starter kit of some of our favorite episodes. And subscribe to our weekly email newsletter! Every Wednesday we send out podcast listening recommendations, fascinating letters from our inbox and updates from the show. Sign up at deathsexmoney.org/newsletter. Support Death, Sex & Money today at deathsexmoney.org/donate. Follow the show on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram. Got a story to share? Email us any time at [email protected].

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0:00.0

People come to me for a lot of advice and I'm generally quite honored, but on occasion I kind of just say okay I don't need

0:08.6

Can I have a day without somebody coming to talk about yeah about another breakup.

0:17.6

This is death sex and money. Here's some money go see a Star War. The show from

0:22.0

WNY about the things we think about a lot.

0:24.6

We're going to rip that flesh out for you and eat it.

0:27.0

And need to talk about more.

0:28.6

Can no one find nude photos of me on the internet?

0:31.6

I'm Ali Ashokat in for Anna Sale. The first time I was

0:38.3

on Death Sex and Money I was 28 years old. It was a live show with Anna in Los Angeles and the conversation was about what it's like to be in your 20s.

0:49.0

But I recently turned 30 and now I'm looking for some different kind of advice about the next chapter of my life

0:56.4

So when I was asked back to be a guest host on this episode I knew exactly who I wanted to get it from

1:05.0

Esther, hello, hello, Esther Perel.

1:06.0

Therapist, author, and host of her own podcast,

1:10.0

Where Should We Begin.

1:11.0

She studies intimacy and monogamy and sexuality, things that I think about all the time.

1:17.0

Thank you so much for putting the time aside to do this. I mean so much to me.

1:21.0

My pleasure.

1:22.0

I think I was like 26 or 27 when I discovered her work.

1:28.2

So really from that point on I kind of just got obsessed with her. Like my dream was just to have like a session with her

1:35.1

just to like pull her aside and be like okay this is my stuff I want to talk about but

1:39.2

this interview is about as close as I could get to a counseling session.

1:43.6

So I really wanted to ask her about her life,

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