From KCRW, Santa Monica and KCRW.com, this is The Treatment.

Welcome to The Treatment. I'm Elvis Mitchell. My guest, Alfonso Cuarmone, comes here almost every movie since the beginning of the 21st century, starting with Etou Mametambien, but he goes all the way back to love in the time of hysteria. His newest film as director is the Game Changer Gravity. Good to have you back, Alfonso. Good to see you.

Good to see you, Elvis. You always you know what i i find so fascinating

about all your movies at some point often at the beginning we start with somebody who's enjoying

life or there are moments of enormous pleasure in your movie and and this movie starts off with that

and then that rug is pulled out from under people. Where does that come from for you?

Well, life, no.

A little bit like that.

You tell me, because I mean, it's,

but there are these incredible kind of emotional extremes

that you like to depict, aren't there?

Well, but I think that life is like that.

I mean, we tend to believe that adversities, for instance, are

like exceptions in our life when actually moments of calm are the exceptions in our lives.

Do you really think that? Nobody, and I'm not talking about huge, I'm, you go through periods

of huge adversities, but then also you go every day, traffic, you know, you're running late.

There's always little sense of adversity.

And, you know, struggling with trying to understand what's going on around the universe.

You know, it's challenging.

Everything is challenging.

Doesn't take away the joy and beauty.

But the moments of joy, and how you going to think about the week, because I was just watching

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