Alex Wagner: The Poster Child for Corruption and Grift

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Politics, News, News Commentary

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🗓️ 13 February 2025

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

While Elon claims he's storming the government to cut waste, he's also getting himself a big fat check for $400 million from the State Department for Tesla armored vehicles—though administration officials are now trying to hide the grift because the Trump glow does not extend to the weird dude. Meanwhile, McConnell may have voted against confirming RFK Jr, but he's the one who drew up the blueprint for breaking the rules. Plus, the asymmetry in passion between MAGA and the resistance, and Alex's new podcast looks at how people are being affected by the policies and promises of Trumpism.

MSNBC’s Alex Wagner join Tim.
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Trumpland with Alex Wagner
Dave Weigel's piece that Tim referenced
Axios piece that was mentioned

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0:00.0	Hello and welcome to the board podcast. I'm your host Tim Miller. We're still in the first month of the Trump
0:13.1	second presidency, apparently. And I'm with somebody that's going to try to help us figure it out.
0:18.6	You would have usually found her hosting Alex Wagner tonight on MSNBC with me as a guest occasionally, but through April 30th,
0:25.3	she's on special assignment for the limited MSNBC podcast series, Trump Land with Alex Wagner,
0:31.2	reporting on the first 100 days of the second Trump administration. It's Alex Wagner and we're in
0:36.1	Trump land, I guess. How's that going? I mean,
0:38.4	we live in Trump land. It's just the reality of the situation. I hate to break it to everybody.
0:44.0	It may not be forever, but that's where we're on. Do you have any pushback on the title? Just like
0:48.8	having to, you know, just for mental health purposes or we just are accepting.
0:54.5	Well, there is a fine calculation between how much the word Trump in any given title is an
0:59.8	attractant or a repellent.
1:01.4	Yeah.
1:02.2	So I do think, though, I mean, we're looking at Trump land, not just through the lens of
1:06.8	Trump, but the people also affected by Trumpism and his policies and promises.
1:10.7	So it's not
1:11.7	just about the dude. In fact, I would say it's a lot less about the dude and more about the
1:16.4	sort of broader contours of the country he is creating. Yeah, it's very little about the dude,
1:22.0	actually. We're going to do a bunch on the pod. I was binging it yesterday. We have a couple
1:26.5	news items. So we have to get to first,
1:27.9	though, if you don't mind. Please go. It's your podcast. We have a new, I'd like turning the tables.
1:34.4	I love it. I'm a terrible guest. I am a terrible guest, but I'm telling you that now that I'm
1:39.0	already booked and we've started this. It's going to be great. I relish putting the host in the guest seat. I'll bring out the best guest in you, I promise. All right. We have a new edict from the Capitol. The dear leader's mouthpiece was asked about the banishment of the Associated Press from the press room yesterday. I want to take a listen to what she had to say about that. I was very upfront in my briefing on day one that if we feel that there are lies being pushed by outlets in this room,
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