Alex de Waal on the Conflict in Ethiopia and Tigray
The Lawfare Podcast
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🗓️ 22 November 2022
⏱️ 40 minutes
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Summary
Earlier this month, officials from the government of Ethiopia and representatives from the Tigray People's Liberation Front agreed to halt the two-year conflict that has been rife with accusations of ethnic cleansing, sexual violence, and famine as a weapon of war. To discuss the current state of the conflict and the prospect of peace, Lawfare managing editor Tyler McBrien sat down with Alex de Waal, executive director of the World Peace Foundation and a research professor at Tufts University's Fletcher School of Law and Diplomacy. A longtime expert on the Horn of Africa, de Waal co-edited the book, “Accountability for Mass Starvation: Testing the Limits of the Law,” which was published in August. They discussed the terms of the recent truce agreements, the irony of Prime Minister Abiy Ahmed's Nobel Peace Prize, and the options for accountability for forced starvation and other crimes committed by both sides.
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| 1:09.0 | I think one of the worst and tragic messages that comes out of this piece of reload |
| 1:17.0 | is that starvation works. |
| 1:21.0 | As a weapon of war, the inflection of mass hunger is merciless and effective. |
| 1:29.0 | It may be slow, it may take months or years, but it is relentless and it does its job. |
| 1:37.0 | It's silent. It's something that if you can suppress information about it happening, |
| 1:43.0 | the world will not object, and it's possible to co-opt those who are mandated to prevent hunger, |
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