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This is Design Matters with Debbie Millman from Design Observer.com.

For 11 years now, Debbie Millman has been talking with designers and other creative types

about what they do, how they got to be who they are and what they're

thinking about. On this podcast, Debbie Millman talks with Alan Du Bauton about love and sex.

My view of human nature is that all of us are only just holding it together in various ways,

and that's okay, and we just need to go easy with one another knowing that we're all these incredibly fragile

beings.

Here's Debbie Mumman. The's Debbie Mama. The art of travel, the pleasures and sorrows of work. How to think

more about sex, how Proust can Change Your Life.

These are just some of the titles of books by the prolific

And La de Botan.

He's not yet 50, but he's already written a shelf of books.

They're about our lives and how to live them. but he's already written a shelf of books.

They're about our lives and how to live them,

and they are graceful, witty, and wise.

And La DiBotan is also a novelist.

His latest is titled The Course of Love. He joins me now to talk about his career,

is always surprising take on the world, and about his new book. Alan Poeton

welcome to Design Matters.

Thank you so much.

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