This is CBSI on the World. I'm John Batchwith. My colleague, Bill Rajo, senior fellow for the Foundation for the Defense of Democracy.

He keeps the Long War Journal I recommend as a chronicle of events of individual terror attacks,

lone wolf terror attacks, unknowns, for example, many years of pursuit of bad actors,

such as the East African attacks in the 20th century, or the coal attack in the beginning of this,

no, it was still the 20th century, it was 2000.

And then the war fighting that's going on now in the Middle East,

a major distinction between al-Qaeda and these units that are formed,

the Houthis are tribal.

Hamas certainly is tribal on the basis of the Muslim Brotherhood,

turning into Hamas. Hezbollah is tribal on the basis of the Muslim Brotherhood, turning into Hamas,

Hezbollah is tribal, Lebanese, who are used in Syria.

But then there's al-Qaeda and ISIS.

Now, ISIS is a breakaway from al-Qaeda.

It begins with much the same mission.

The ambition can be ISIS sees itself as territorial, where Al Qaeda sees itself as

global, a global caliphate. And I go to that, Bill, because I need you to help me emphasize that

al-Qaeda never went away, that those training camps in Afghanistan are not idle.

Is al-Qaeda capable of a transnational attack the way it once was understood in the Middle East?

The al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula was seen as a transnational attack.

Do we have reason to believe they're planning the similar thing in the training camps in Afghanistan?

You know, John, one of the things that's very frustrating in this field is that people will say things,

well, Al-Qaeda hasn't conducted an attack in the United States in X amount of months or years, and therefore it means they no longer seek to do so i have to remind people that between the

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