If I had to tell you how much fun it was talking to Ashling B, and I would give and say one to 17

as the scale with 17 being lots of fun and one being not much fun at all, I'd go for 17.

She was fantastic. We talk about so many things in a very curious order.

If you're wondering what she's up to work-wise, you'll have to wait.

We touch on that at the end.

She's doing a thing with Ramesh, Rangor Nathan,

she's doing a thing with Donald Gleeson and Andrea Reisbrough.

We do get to that.

But along the way, we go all over the place,

an utter delight to speak to her, and I hope, an utter delight to listen to.

Brighton and Ashling B.

Oh, hello, Rob. What are the odds of meeting you here? I didn't know. I didn't know. I've looked this way then. So not it's the first time I've turned. Oh, it's Ashling B. Ding! I love that. I'm not sure if it's a sort of nod to one of the biggest bands in Ireland toitched, but that we both wore in denim. Oh, yeah. But you know who's who because I'm wearing a yellow cardigan over white denim, so we can really differentiate us apart. Because otherwise, we're always being confused. Absolutely Jedwards, the pair of us. I'll tell you why I'm wearing this shirt today. Because it looks handsome as a hill. Oh, no, stop it.

No, because I watched on Sky a few days ago, Brian Johnson and Mark Knopfler, they've got a new series where they talk to singers and musicians and they had Tom Jones on.

And he was wearing a more substantial, thicker denim.

And I thought, well, that's good.

Because it's just a solid block.

And that's... But there's texture to it and nuance. Yeah. So from the start, you might think that's one colour, but denim, she can surprise you. Yeah. Yeah. So it's called, when you do double denim like I'm doing, it's called a Canadian tuxedo. But maybe if you and Tom Jones and I don't know, Rysifans all start wearing it, then it could be a Welsh tuxedo. You know he's the most celebrated person. If I were to say the name Trevor Nunn to you, what would that mean? Theatre director, darling. Yes. I don't know that he wears double denim. He does. Does he? Trevor wears Sir Trevor Nunn, wears nothing. And I was somewhere... None but denim, they call him.

Indeed.

Sometimes triple denim.

No way.

I swear to God.

What may be like a denim kerchief?

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