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Robert Wright's Nonzero

AI Snake Oil (Robert Wright & Arvind Narayanan)

Robert Wright's Nonzero

Nonzero

News & Politics, Philosophy, Society & Culture

4.7618 Ratings

🗓️ 2 October 2024

⏱️ 55 minutes

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0:28 Arvind’s book and newsletter: AI Snake Oil 3:02 A taxonomy of AI observers 7:41 The impact of generative AI 20:21 Why predictive AI sometimes fails 25:03 Uses and misuses of AI in law and healthcare 41:22 Can social media be saved? 52:25 Heading to Overtime

Robert Wright (Nonzero, The Evolution of God, Why Buddhism Is True) and Arvind Narayanan (Princeton University, AI Snake Oil). Recorded September 11, 2024.

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0:00.0

You're listening to Robert Wright's Non-Zero podcast. You're listening to Robert Wright's Non-Zero Podcast.

0:29.3

Hi, Arvin.

0:31.3

Hi, Pop.

0:32.6

How you doing?

0:34.1

I'm doing well.

0:35.1

How are you?

0:35.4

I really look forward to chatting.

0:37.1

So do I. Very much so. Let me introduce this. I'm Robert Wright, publisher of the Non-Zero Newsletter. This is a non-zero podcast. You are Arvind Narayanan, a professor of computer science at Princeton, also director of Center for Information Technology Policy there. And also you have your own newsletter called AI Snake Oil.

0:56.5

I think you and I have probably agreed that people should subscribe to both of our newsletters, right?

1:01.6

I very much agree with that.

1:03.2

Yeah, even though you've never seen mine.

1:05.3

Be careful. You never know what you're endorsing.

1:07.3

Okay, so you also have a book called AI Snake Oil, same name, co-authored with Syash Kapoor.

1:14.3

I hope that's close to the pronunciation.

1:17.1

The subtitle is what artificial intelligence can do, what it can't, and how to tell the difference.

1:23.1

And that's what we're going to talk about.

1:24.9

I'm really looking forward to this.

1:27.2

Your book does a good job of conveying the breadth of the field of AI, you know,

1:32.9

because what's gotten the most attention over the last couple of years,

1:36.7

at least at the public level, is generative AI,

1:40.7

AI that generates images, videos, and, of, language, as with chat, GPT.

1:46.3

And one thing you emphasize in the book is that the field is a lot bigger than that.

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